Curse

Shady79 · Jan 27, 2007, 03:00 PM // 15:00

I can try and do what I want:

All my ele do not cast fire attunement on spawn/all the time... like all other attunements. Friends told me, their ele hero do so.

So... if it's really possible:

How can I RESET my hero behavior?

How can I TRAIN my hero?

I'm really frustrated!

Rockby Quickfoot · Jan 27, 2007, 03:06 PM // 15:06

I've never heard anything like that O.o The closest thing I've heard to what you're asking, is if you put the spell farthest to the left on the person's skill bar, they will cast that spell more. Try that, if you haven't already. Anything further, I don't know.

Shady79 · Jan 27, 2007, 04:02 PM // 16:02

doesnt work either. and yes ive tried that.

Lotrfish · Jan 27, 2007, 04:21 PM // 16:21

You can't do either of those. The AI is bad, you can't change that.

However, somehow they are a lot more effective than real people in most places.

gou · Jan 27, 2007, 04:25 PM // 16:25

it's an energy management skill, heros use it once they have burned up a bit of energy first

Shady79 · Jan 27, 2007, 05:14 PM // 17:14

@gou: they use earth/air/water attunements ALL THE TIME... but not fire.

bug @ fire or bug at all other attunements?

CyberMesh0 · Jan 27, 2007, 06:27 PM // 18:27

If nothing else, you can activate the skill yourself. I don't know what else to tell you.

Kityn · Jan 27, 2007, 06:34 PM // 18:34

I found on occasion that once I activate a heroes skill he/she/it will start using that skill. I find that using mixed skills from a primary class and secondary class also helps. Such as using 5 primary skills, 2 or 3 secondary skills.

Shady79 · Jan 28, 2007, 12:20 AM // 00:20

?????

I've tried to manual activate fire attunement at all starts. No change at hero behaviour happened.

Evilsod · Jan 28, 2007, 02:43 AM // 02:43

2 Facts of GW.

Heros are dumb.

Anet aren't going to do jack shit about it.

Tommy · Jan 28, 2007, 03:39 AM // 03:39

heroes aren't dumb.. ppl are dumb.. i did gate of madness with ppl and failed. I did gate of madness with hero and i won. good players <as far as i know> dont play with human. they only play with hereos. the pugs you got in your party are properly not that good imao.

Darkpower Alchemist · Jan 28, 2007, 04:55 AM // 04:55

Honestly,the hero AI seems to pick up the use of certin skills faster than others.Also,yes to the fact that heroes can learn to use a skill as you manually make them use it, yet some are faster than others.

Dunkoro never uses sig of devotion or rejuvenation,chosing to make spell casting decisions over the sigs that make for better e managment. As I force him to use them, he will eventually begin using the sigs.

The same can be said for turning a hero into a boon protect monk. Tahlkora never would use the skill Divine Boon until I tried to use it manually, and now she does it when the skill is in her bar without me. They can be bonders, but you will have to most likely disable the auto use of the spell or as it cast, they will cancel it.

As for Fire Attunement, Sousuke nor Zhed have never had problems with its use, save for occasional lapses where it is not reapplied during combat. Yet, I believe that as you babysit them for awhile, it will get better.

Shady79 · Jan 28, 2007, 05:23 AM // 05:23

but why can they use all other attunements right but not fire from start on? -.-

strcpy · Jan 28, 2007, 06:38 AM // 06:38

I think it is a bug.

I've gotten Zhed on my fifth character now. On all my others he casts Fire attunement quite well, I completed factions with my Dervish and got Sosuke and he does just fine with it. However, the Zhed the one of the characters acquired refuses to cast it unless I manually click it every time. Same skill bar, same items, and same runes (I have one set of hero items and each one gets their own runes).

I can not figure out why nor can I figure out how to correct it. Really annoying. I do not know if other skills get the same problem, few single spells are as critical as Fire attunement is to a SF elementalist (usually either none are or there is a chain that must work).

Shady79 · Jan 28, 2007, 04:10 PM // 16:10

should be fixed (easily) then imho in the next updates (in case anet reads this)

rotoiti · Feb 01, 2007, 06:11 PM // 18:11

I have exact same problem with Razah and Rit Lord build. He would not cast Boon of Creation until AFTER he casts Shelter. By that time he's out of energy already :-/ I clicked BoC manually and he is using it sometimes now.

On the other hand I never had a big problem with Zhed or Sousuke and attunements. The only problem is that they tend to cast fire attunement right at the moment I call them into battle ...

lightblade · Feb 01, 2007, 06:16 PM // 18:16

Heros are just as dumb as henchmen if you don't control them. So don't blame the AI being bad, you should blame yourself for not being smart enough to control your heros.

JUST CLICK THE ATTUNEMENT YOURSELF!!!

Adamal · Feb 01, 2007, 06:49 PM // 18:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shady79

should be fixed (easily) then imho in the next updates (in case anet reads this)

Forgive me, but if you haven't seen the code base, then you can't make any claim on how easy or difficult a particular bug is to fix.

sumasage · Feb 01, 2007, 06:57 PM // 18:57

i use dual attun. and it work just fine. Maybe a bug then. I'll test it tonight and let you guys know.

Shady79 · Feb 03, 2007, 01:33 AM // 01:33

Adamal... I think all attunements should work equal.

At spawn my heroes cast earth/fire/air attunement.

When I replace one of those above with fire attunement, he will start fire attunement at beginning of a battle (which is TOO LATE).

Please take a look at my new thread.